ricdix
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Owensboro man dies when bicycle strikes dog on Roby Road
Messenger-Inquirer
David W. Nuckols, 53, of the 6300 block of Kentucky 1389 died Wednesday afternoon from head trauma he suffered in a bicycle accident.
About 7 p.m. Tuesday, Nuckols was bicycling on Roby Road when he hit a dog and was thrown from the bicycle.
Daviess County Coroner Bob Howe said reports indicate the man was wearing a helmet.
He died at 12:01 p.m. at Owensboro Medical Health System, Howe said.
http://www.messenger-inquirer.com/News/death-brief-m1
I did not know David personally but many did.
Hopefully we can learn from this tragedy and take extra caution the next time we are encountered by a chaser.
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FireBallKY
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| 05/01/2008 2:19 PM |
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Which brings up the question...Do the dog's owners have responsibility for this guy's misfortune or would it be considered a "no fault" accident? Hopefully he didn't suffer much, if at all. I hope his family can handle this as smoothly as possible.
Does anybody know if he had any kids at home? Maybe we could raise a small fund to help out if necessary. |
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I'm not fat. That's a fuel tank for the love machine!!! |
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Rowbear
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| 05/01/2008 4:05 PM |
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| yeah, dog owners can be held liable, just like cattle owners, that used to be our biggest fear when our cows got out, that someone would hit one and die and then their family would sue our pants off. |
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abaker673
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| 05/21/2008 9:05 PM |
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Yes, the dog owners do have a responsibility, this is what leash laws are for. yes, he had children and though they are grown, it is still a very difficult time for all because his wife is battling breast cancer right now.
David was a wonderful man, who did a lot to help out his community. He was loved by all who knew him, and this was just a tragedy.
From what I understand, the dog issue is a very common problem for riders. As someone who knew David well and as a pet owner, you have a responsibility to keep control of your pet. PERIOD! As freak as this accident was, it was the difference between being a responsible pet owner and following the laws, or not. |
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jhamner
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| 05/22/2008 1:42 AM |
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| What is the leash law exactly? Does it apply outside city limits? I'm not saying that this tragedy happened outside city limits. I'm just curious. I live out in the county and I have to deal with dogs every now and then. I would never blame the dog's owners unless there was a leash law in effect for that area. |
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Tonybob
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| 05/22/2008 8:37 AM |
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http://www.animallaw.info/statutes/stuskyst258_005_991.htm#s265
You can't just let your animals roam willy-nilly. |
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| 05/22/2008 9:40 AM |
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| I live in a very rural area, and if my dogs get out on the pavement after someone it should be my responsibility. About two years ago a guy came out of his house and threatened me after I had yelled at his dogs (out on the road trying to bite me). I had a major urge to try the guy out, but I was a long way from home, and I figured he had a gun. I cannot condone dogs chasing people on bicycles anywhere. And it's an everyday occurance if you road bike in rural Kentucky. |
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pat_collins
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| 05/22/2008 10:47 AM |
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i completely agree Paul, it is unacceptable anywhere. I carry a can of dog mace for just that reason, one shot from that and the dog will never EVER chase another cyclist*
*disclaimer - I can't prove this, i only know that I wouldn't chase another cyclist after being sprayed in the eyes with pepper spray. |
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jhamner
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| 05/22/2008 11:42 AM |
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| I'm just going off what was posted but it didn't say anywhere that the dog was chasing him although that is probably what happened or what was about to happen. But who knows. Maybe the dog just darted out in front of him. |
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Rowbear
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| 05/22/2008 12:36 PM |
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| doesn't matter, it's still the owner's fault. |
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| 05/22/2008 11:39 PM |
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Many people view road cycling as a low risk sport. Once you get involved in cycling you see that ain't the case. I have riding partners hit by cars, get injured not being able to hang a turn and losing a front wheel and separating a shoulder(me). I raced motocross before getting into road riding, cycling isn't as dangerous. It sure is more hazardous than bowling and the game for fat beer drinkers........ softball.
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Big Tommy C
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| 05/23/2008 9:46 AM |
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I would never blame the dog's owners unless there was a leash law in effect for that area.
I dunno, I always thought that responsibility was independent of law.
I think that letting your dogs roam lookse shows a lack of concern for the safety of others as well ad for the dogs. Get a fence, keep it inside, or don't have a damn dog. |
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Jeff Viniard
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| 05/23/2008 10:26 AM |
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Dog mace is nice and all, but the only time I've seen it used, the dog caught about 20% of the spray, and the rest of the peloton got to enjoy the other 80%. I've kicked dogs before, and never out of spite. But I'd rather explain to a dog's owner how I gave it a split lip than how I ran over and killed it.
Frame pumps seem to work well at range, and can be wielded with Jedi-like precision and speed, though you have to supply the cool sound effects. The best solution for about 95% of dogs has to be water from a bottle sprayed in the dog's face. It works at range, is utterly harmless, and is a lot easier to explain away to an indignant dog owner who is miffed and mystified at the notion that their loving (and only *slightly* feral and ravenous) pooch could ever threaten another human being.
Regarding the urban/rural leash law situation, any person who loves their pet should teach it to stay out of the road, especially when said pet can roam at large in their yard. Dogs have no business attacking people, I don't care what you say about "chase instinct" or mistaken identity of a cyclist. We're higher up on the food chain, darn it! |
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jhamner
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| 05/23/2008 12:17 PM |
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Posted By Big Tommy C on 05/23/2008 9:46 AM
I would never blame the dog's owners unless there was a leash law in effect for that area.
I dunno, I always thought that responsibility was independent of law.
I think that letting your dogs roam lookse shows a lack of concern for the safety of others as well ad for the dogs. Get a fence, keep it inside, or don't have a damn dog.
No one should let their dog roam loose. You're right that is complete neglect and irresponsibility. But if I want to unleash my dog and play frisbee in the front yard, I wouldn't think twice about it. |
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jhamner
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| 05/23/2008 12:18 PM |
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Posted By Jeff Viniard on 05/23/2008 10:26 AM
Dog mace is nice and all, but the only time I've seen it used, the dog caught about 20% of the spray, and the rest of the peloton got to enjoy the other 80%. I've kicked dogs before, and never out of spite. But I'd rather explain to a dog's owner how I gave it a split lip than how I ran over and killed it.
Frame pumps seem to work well at range, and can be wielded with Jedi-like precision and speed, though you have to supply the cool sound effects. The best solution for about 95% of dogs has to be water from a bottle sprayed in the dog's face. It works at range, is utterly harmless, and is a lot easier to explain away to an indignant dog owner who is miffed and mystified at the notion that their loving (and only *slightly* feral and ravenous) pooch could ever threaten another human being.
Regarding the urban/rural leash law situation, any person who loves their pet should teach it to stay out of the road, especially when said pet can roam at large in their yard. Dogs have no business attacking people, I don't care what you say about "chase instinct" or mistaken identity of a cyclist. We're higher up on the food chain, darn it!
I completely agree.
It really does suck that this man lost his life for nothing. |
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pat_collins
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| 05/23/2008 5:06 PM |
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Posted By Jeff Viniard on 05/23/2008 10:26 AM
Dog mace is nice and all, but the only time I've seen it used, the dog caught about 20% of the spray, and the rest of the peloton got to enjoy the other 80%. I've kicked dogs before, and never out of spite. But I'd rather explain to a dog's owner how I gave it a split lip than how I ran over and killed it.
Frame pumps seem to work well at range, and can be wielded with Jedi-like precision and speed, though you have to supply the cool sound effects. The best solution for about 95% of dogs has to be water from a bottle sprayed in the dog's face. It works at range, is utterly harmless, and is a lot easier to explain away to an indignant dog owner who is miffed and mystified at the notion that their loving (and only *slightly* feral and ravenous) pooch could ever threaten another human being.
Regarding the urban/rural leash law situation, any person who loves their pet should teach it to stay out of the road, especially when said pet can roam at large in their yard. Dogs have no business attacking people, I don't care what you say about "chase instinct" or mistaken identity of a cyclist. We're higher up on the food chain, darn it!
Agreed, The only time I have actually used the mace was on a huge Great pyranees that was not stopping, water bottle is always my first reaction, squirt it at them and they run away, this dude wanted blood but got an eye full of mace, I was alone so no chance to get it on everyone else. the next time I was through there he stood up, took notice of what was going on and sat back down. |
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russell g
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| 05/23/2008 8:08 PM |
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| first mace the dog then the owner. |
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Jeff Viniard
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| 05/23/2008 8:52 PM |
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Posted By russell g on 05/23/2008 8:08 PM
first mace the dog then the owner. Of course, if the spray version of mace doesn't cut it, you can improvise:
Mace
The nice thing is these things can be formed readily from a frame pump, rock, and spare tube. I've never actually done this, but it seems easy enough.
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PR
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| 05/23/2008 10:00 PM |
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| I'm with Fireball; I'm up for donating a few dollars to help out the family if anyone starts a collection. |
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