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04/30/2008 4:11 PM  
you could always email each other
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04/30/2008 4:13 PM  
or take long moonlit walks in the park together
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04/30/2008 4:56 PM  
Okay, this is the fourth iteration of KyMBA I've been on board for (and I happen to like it, though it is quiet some days), and have lurked around since Scott was the webmaster, and my college tuition would be paid if I had a dollar for every time people bemoaned the lack of a no-holds-barred forum. And free speech certainly has it's place in just about every medium and place of discussion (regardless of what you think of the message, the first amendment protects scoundrels and saints alike).

But frankly, I fail to see why you guys can't call each other up and yak about this, take it to mtbr or somesuch place, and insist that we siphon club money away from advocacy, trail work, and other endeavors that benefit riders statewide (whether members or not) to provide another diversion for the handful of members who can't find some previously-established blog built from the ground up to allow for whatever invective they ultimately wish to cast about. And yes, that's a run-on sentence. I'm sorry.
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04/30/2008 5:05 PM  
Posted By G-MAN on 04/30/2008 3:47 PM
Oh yea, I love this quote, "Isn't this how you guys managed to tank the last forum? " So we post on the forum and it crashes? Maybe kymba should invest in something that will allow ky mtbers to communicate with each other about any topic they choose.

Rod, I completely agree with you said.

We have very few rules and I'm all for debate...but please keep in mind that this is a privately owned, public cycling forum offered up to multiple communities (including KyMBA) for free (no investment required cause we just like you guys). 

Just asking that the house rules are respected.

Cool?

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Web Guy, BikeClicks.com
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04/30/2008 6:47 PM  
Gotta agree with Rod... not a very good comparison at all.  IF we were still fighting Iraq, as in the country Iraq, and we had found those WMD's and obvious huge plans with other countries and such... maybe, but we didn't.  Right now we're fighting a war of speculation, not terrorism. 

I love it how so many people claim that everybody we kill over there is just one more person that we don't have to face over here... as if every last one of them are hellbent on coming over here to do damage, and have the resources to do so.  It's just not that hard to make it over here.  Thousands of Mexicans simply walk over here illegally every single day.  Chinese people get here illegally on boats every single day.  If those guys in Iraq REALLY wanted to get over here, they'd just do it.  We are fighting them over there right now because they are pissed that we are occupying their land, and they attack the foreigners that are on their land... just like we would over here.  We would do the exact same thing if China overthrew our government then soldiers were walking down the streets.  They'd get shot all the time.  Would that mean that everybody over here wants to go to China to blow up civilians? 
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04/30/2008 8:16 PM  
Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. even if you win you're still retarded.
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04/30/2008 8:41 PM  
Posted By russell g on 04/30/2008 8:16 PM
Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. even if you win you're still retarded.

GREAT!!!  Now you've started another issue...lol

I'm not fat. That's a fuel tank for the love machine!!!
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04/30/2008 10:23 PM  
new look, but same old kymba
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04/30/2008 11:52 PM  
speakin of tards with nothin to say...
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05/01/2008 6:34 AM  
An ignorant statment from ignorant people ......... always good for a laugh.
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05/01/2008 8:12 AM  

Since we're talking about histroy, here's some worthwhile history (as it pertains to kymba)

The previous sites have not be taken down because of the forums.  It has been a technical shortcoming in both cases and in each case, every effort was made to keep these precious forums in place. (because everyone seems to love each other so much) Ultimately we opted to move to bikeclicks because it allows us to better communicate with more cyclists and - as steven said - they offer terrific technical support (for free).

The Kentucky Mountain Bike Association was founded in the mid 90s with a distinct mission: to promote mountain biking in the Commonwealth of Kentucky through advocacy, education, leadership and sustainable trail development. (Notice, the mission offers no mention of providing individuals with a place to publicly post personal opinions, particularly when it comes to highly divisive, non-cycling related issues.) 

By nature of what we try to do, KyMBA is something of a political animal. We all like to ride bikes on the trails and the trails happen to be on public land. As we need to use a public resource for our chosen recreation, it's rather important that we effectively lobby our elected leaders for support - both political and financial. So, while we must operate in a political world, we are a bicycle-oriented user group - not a political party and certainly not a political discussion group.

To sum up: the Kentucky Mountain Bike Association is an organization built around mountain biking. The organization's end goal is to improve mountain biking in Kentucky and the website serves as a place where people with a common interest (again, that would be mountain biking) can communicate with each other, organize and hopefully - get out and ride together once in a while.  When it comes to mountain biking, we have something in common - beyond that - I suspect it get's a bit trickier. 

So, as I have done at least twice a year for the last two years, I am once again going to request that all opinion pieces be kept off the general forums. There has never been an "opinion" post that didn't dissolve into name calling and chaos, which is what get's us back to the original post: "A History Lesson - Then and Now"

As this started as a history discussion, let me offer this lesson: History has proven that opinion pieces in the KyMBA forums are bad for moral, take away from the goals of the organization and generally leave a bad taste in everyone's mouth.  So, since we are so psyched on learing from history, let's employ what we've learned from our own recent digital history and move to a new operational model - Please post all personal opinion pieces elsewhere. Someone invented this neat little thing called a weblog and you are all encouraged to start your own - you can even start one right here on bikeclicks. Think of your blog as your own little marginally-informed talkshow where people can "call in" and agree with you or fight with you or whatever else and by moving it to another "room" on the site, it will help preserve the forums for other stuff, like organizing arm wrestling or cage fighting instead of hill climbs or huffy tosses. 

Thanks for coming to class today everyone - please try to enjoy your summer.
 


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05/01/2008 9:13 AM  
Coughbullshitcough ............. In my personal opinion I think it livens things up a little and builds closer relationships. Hell, we all know Rico is a redneck so why not encourage him ......... G-Man used to be slower than me (used to be) I haven't been on a Mtb since 1/20/08. Not sure if I will again but, I am still a member of KyMBA. Once again this is only my opinion, I think what you stated above is exactly what the organization? is missing. Hell, I remember the good old days when Paul Rose would rant endlessly about Eastern Ky and how they really weren't backwoods, inbred hillbillies. He actually had me convinced of this once until I saw him at the Turkey Buster with his bibs on the outside of his Jersey.............. Oh, BTW ...... And I've got to say it .......... "R WE IN CHINA?" Now, have at it ..................
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05/01/2008 9:36 AM  
So....you're sayin' I can start my own marginally-informed talk show right here on this site via a web blog? And the KyMBA folks who want to engage me in any discussion they choose to can do so...right here on this site? Just keep it behind the iron curtain...Is this right?
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05/01/2008 10:18 AM  
Sorry faster D.
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05/01/2008 11:09 AM  
No worries, Rico - I totally understand where you're coming from. I'm not mad and really don't have an issue with anyone speaking their mind, I'd just rather not have a bunch of infighting and name calling on the boards. We're a small group as it is - gotta stick together.

And G-man, I promise, even here in digital-china, Mao says you can have your very own show. Provided it isn't threatening anyone, specifically (which is a federal crime) I think you're ok calling it like you see it. Anyone can read it, anyone can post a reply, but the conversation is contained to your own space. My brother and I could fight all we wanted as kids, but we had to go to the basement. Same basic idea.

And Marv, I know you show your love by harrasing people - and that's fine, too, provided innocent civilians don't exposed to the collateral.

Nothing personal, guys, I'm just trying to keep the peace. Thanks for understanding.
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05/01/2008 11:14 AM  
Shut up and ride.
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05/01/2008 11:18 AM  
Dulin said: "highly divisive"

GO BARACK '08!!!!!
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05/01/2008 12:14 PM  
Actually this stuff is too funny. NeoCon revisionism. And it turns hilarious when it 's followed by a comment that liberals rewrite history. That's the pot calling the kettle black for sure.

Revisionism.

Is that why we went?

Really.

If that's the reason, then why was'nt that arguement presented before the conflict started?

Oh wait, I guess we did'nt need to know.

The dustbin of history. That's sounds like where all the neocons are now. They hitched their cart to the deadest horse in history. Bush2.

That morning in America stuff is gone now boys. Now our image is rendition and waterboarding..

I think Ronnie Regan would really be dissapointed in ya'll
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05/01/2008 12:15 PM  
Sorry Mike!
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05/01/2008 3:27 PM  
A long pointless thread on KyMBA and I've yet to come along and help perpetuate the discussion.

Fixed.
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